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Post by LILREDCJ6 on May 5, 2010 20:28:22 GMT -5
Dude go to google enter what you are thinking about buying and add reviews to the end of it. Then read them. Make an informed decision. There is no one that is using any of the tires you have listed. It took me 5 minutes to find out that the Dune grappler is just that. It is for sand and desert enviroments. Which means it would be worthless on the east coast.
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Post by 87B2XLT on May 5, 2010 20:29:40 GMT -5
What load range are they and what's the 'guaranteed' mileage wear-out on either? I've never had a problem with Coopers not lasting a good long while... in fact, the Trendsetters that were on my old Nova outlived the silly car (only because instead of rebuilding it, I wound up hauling it to the scrap pile, which I still regret doing ). I've never ran Kellys, nor do I remember anyone running them to tell you anything on them. I'd probably go with whatever has a wear limit of at least 50k miles and make sure they are warranted to the hilt, so if they wear out quicker, you can at least hopefully get a pro-rated replacement. Dave G
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Post by jlmjeep on May 5, 2010 21:18:51 GMT -5
Josh, I agree with Tony. Do some research, make an informed decision. Don't let price be the main deternining feature.Your truck is heavy and Load range "C" tires are going to wear out fast. Quality tire are worth the money, especially if you are planning on towing with your truck.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2010 22:02:07 GMT -5
Not just that, but that type of tread sucks for a tow rig. It's a tow rig Josh, you should not settle for anything under an E load range IMO. And find something with an all season tread or even a mild a/t tread, those are the tires that will last you a while, drive nice, get better economy and do well in the rain instead of paying for a look that won't do what you need it to do. So take that for what it's worth unless you've already made up your mind. And I'm not telling you that you should get these, but as an example this is what I got and they have them in your flavor too. I was out the door for $600 for a set of 4. www.firestonetire.com/tireselector/GlamourIndex_FS_EN.aspx?productID=1095
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Post by newt on May 6, 2010 8:55:35 GMT -5
(lets see if psych 101 was worth my time)
Josh, Those flame job looking tires w/ zero siping look sweet!! There's no way you should settle for anything less. I mean read this review -
If Evil made a tire, the Nitto Dune Grappler would be it. Like it's cousin the Nitto Mud Grappler extreme terrain, the Nitto Dune Grappler packs as much attitude as it does performance in it's domain. The most impressive thing about this tire is it's evil profile. The tread pattern consists of spiked flames that run laterally through it's tread pattern and down onto the sidewalls. Even the Nitto Dune Grappler logo embedded in the sidewall has attitude. As long as this tire handled somewhat OK in it's preferred terrain, the tire would still be worth consideration, just on appearance alone. Make no mistake, this tire is specifically built for sand and not mud. In sand it's reported by those who have tested these tires, that they handle pretty well, getting a moderate amount of non-directional bite in sandy zones. On the rocks, even though they are designed to take a beating with their three ply polyester high turn up construction which would improve bruise and puncture resistance, they don't flex well enough to offer good grip on rocks. In the mud, they are on the low side of average when compared to typical All Terrain tires and quickly clog with mud in the voids. But again, these are tires specifically designed to perform in desert conditions. On the street, the do surprisingly well with strong cornering performance and decent grip in dry conditions as well as a quiet ride. However their lack of sipes reduces their wet surface performance to below average. But did we mention they look downright evil?
If that doesn't describe the perfect tire for your daily driver and tow vehicle, I don't know what would. I think you should go for the low profile, wide tire, biggest rim you can get to really accentuate the look. With your truck, I'd bomb everything semi gloss black, tint it really dark, and go for a smooth black wheel - you can probably fit 20's !!!
Seriously though, we are trying to help you make good decisions. In this case (like w/ the 3" body lift) I think you'll be happier in the long run with a load range D or higher all-terrain with good siping, road manners, and a long lasting design.
But the dune grapplers would look cool ... ;D
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Post by jpeay on May 6, 2010 14:17:02 GMT -5
Check tirerack.com I bought tires and rims delivered to my door cheaper than I could buy the tires around here. As far as what tire to buy I have a dodge 2500 with Michelin LTX AT2 which is their allterrian tire. It does just as good as a BFG AT but defiantly not a mud tire. I have 50k miles on them and will probably get around 90k out of them
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Post by joshbaker on May 6, 2010 15:29:17 GMT -5
Jack and i came to the conclusion that the coopers are the best for the money. @ $170 a tire for 265/70 17 load range "E". Feel free to wish yer truck was as cool as mine haha. Wish i had a cummins oh well in due time.
Adam, It worked not getting the dune grapplers but they do look cool.
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Post by 87B2XLT on May 6, 2010 20:28:16 GMT -5
We'll see how long Cooper mudders last.... not for wearout, but how quickly you'll probably want to get rid of them. They're good tires, don't get me wrong, but not for a mostly-pavement driven daily driver/tow vehicle. Out here in the sticks, going off pavement more than on, they'd be alright, though. Those were the tires I was wanting I think, but they 'didn't have them in stock' where I bought the Cooper/Mastercraft AT2s. Of course, that particular dealer will not be getting my business again anytime soon. Speaking of, I need to take my Taco to the dealership and have them un-hose the alignment those nitwits did... my front tires are wearing improperly, and I know there aren't any worn parts, it's only got 32k miles on it Dave G
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Post by joshbaker on May 7, 2010 15:18:26 GMT -5
Haha i just got a hook up from Chris B. He is getting new tires today and im getting his old ones till i can save up the money to buy all 4. seems that most places give you a nice discount . His may not be new but they are a lot better then mine. mine are below the wear bars on the back and at the wear bars on the front.
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Post by 87B2XLT on May 7, 2010 20:37:29 GMT -5
That works. Speaking of tires... I don't need new ones for my tow rig... I just need to take it somewhere that knows how to correctly mount and balance them on the wheels on the Chevy. Something tells me that they are not designed for the clamp-on weights and that is what is causing my slow leaks on both driver's side tires... I have yet to find anything else that is plausible... I've seen nothing stuck in the tires, but both of those wheels' weights aren't exactly 'flush' to the wheels' outer edge, the weight is actually about 1/8" or so away from the wheel....
Dave G
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