Shawn
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Post by Shawn on Mar 6, 2011 1:06:01 GMT -5
So I had an interesting thought. Any "4X4" running open axles is really only two wheel drive being that one wheel in the front turns and one wheel in the rear turns, If you put a locker in the rear you have a three wheel drive, right? Normally the most wanted in the front would be a limited slip, but here is my thought, spool. Hear me out. Part of me understands how dumb this sounds. When the front wheels are locked you lose maneuverability. The other side of me thinks that a spool sending power to an open hub doesn't mean anything. If the only locker I had was a front spool I could only leave one hub locked and one free. That would still give me a two wheel drive 4X4, right? I could install a Detroit Locker to get a three wheel drive. If I were in a bind I could lock the other hub to have a real four wheel drive. I will most likely not do this, but I can't be the first to think about it. Let me know what you like or dislike about the idea. Thanks
Shawn
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Post by FJ40Fran on Mar 6, 2011 5:19:50 GMT -5
Not fully understanding your goal, but I would advise you to reconsider this option. Imagine the tension put on your driveline by having one wheel "spool locked" to the rear when you turn a tight corner. You still loose manueverabilitiy as you'll be pushing or pulling that wheel.
If you goal is to conserve money, recommend a common "lunchbox" locker (Lockrite) and let it do its business. The one front wheel that needs to can turn faster when needed, and you have the traction when you need it....
IMO, Fran
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 9:00:07 GMT -5
I ran Detroit EZ's in my CJ and ran most of the trails with the driver's side hub unlocked. I learned it from Charles White. When Brandon would ride with me, I would make him lock and unlock the passenger side.(No child labor laws here...)
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Shawn
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Post by Shawn on Mar 7, 2011 1:01:58 GMT -5
Fran I didn't really think about how the front one tire would fight the back two when I started the thread. Thanks.
Norm I started reading about the Detroit EZ. Are you sating that you keep the driver side ?locked? and only lock the passenger side as necessary? How do you chose what side to keep locked and which to keep open? What was the advantage to running one side open with a locker. Would it stay locked when you didn't want it to be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 6:50:43 GMT -5
It is not so magical. I kept one of them unlocked to keep the front end from plowing while turning. I didn't drop the hammer unlocked, as it would break the side locked.
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Mar 7, 2011 10:21:27 GMT -5
Post by bensredyj on Mar 7, 2011 10:21:27 GMT -5
As bubba said , his tj drives like a shipping container with spool in back and welded in the front, but the tj is lacking the hubs....
Three wheeln is a whole lot more exciting than two...
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Mar 9, 2011 16:32:39 GMT -5
Post by BIG J on Mar 9, 2011 16:32:39 GMT -5
You're thinking way too hard.
I'm welded up front with a spool in the rear. When wheeling, I will (like Tim said) leave one hub unlocked so that I can turn easier, then lock it back in when at an obstacle. Spooled (or welded) front ends like to go straight, not turn.
I don't agree that one locked wheel is necessarily better than 2 open wheels. If you are climbing a 'step' with an open axle there is power going to both wheels; if you only have power to one wheel the other is being forced over at much higher resistance.
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