Name that big Jeep at UWI!!!

[MaddRamm]

Hey guys,

I got a pair of axles a few months ago from two different big Waggys....well, in order to buy parts for them like brakes, etc., I am going to need to know what model and year they are from!

right now there is a big, white Waggy that matches my axles to a super "T"!!!! It has the drivers side D44 w/manual lockouts and also the rear axle is one of the Centered D44s. Unfortunately, all the shafts, tranny, t-case etc and most of anything on the inside is gone....there is no way for me to accurately identify this thing. It does say "Grand Wagoneer" in fancy cursive writing on the side and is a 4 door model....

Otherwise, I don't know what year or specific style this is and need help! If ya'll can identify it, I can actually by the right type of brakes, ball joints etc for my new project! Thanks for your help!
Madd Ramm soon to be Madd XJ!

[Lyle]

Joshua,

Have you tried paying a visit to the Chesapeake Jeep Museum? There's usually at least parts of every Jeep vehicle known to man there. Seriously, Chris can probably tell you what kind of brakes you need, and what you can upgrade them too if you are willing, and have a fire wrench handy. ;D

[BroknCJ]

Speaking of which..Anyone happen to have a a brake booster/mastercylinder assy off a late 70's waggy?

[jpnut]

BroknTJ said:

Speaking of which..Anyone happen to have a a brake booster/mastercylinder assy off a late 70's waggy?

I did back at the annual run but I gave it away.

But the axle front D44 with drivers side drop would be from a 80/81 or newer Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer (full size). There were a few that were vacuum actuated on the axle but I don't remember what years, yours doesn't sound like it because you mention lock out hubs, which I think would be aftermarket since I don't recall them coming with locking hubs. Now the rear D44 if it is centered I think that it would be prior to 1980 since the Wagoneers after 80 went to an AMC20 rear axle. If it was centered, it was probably run behind a D20 transfer case, since the Quadratrac versions were really off set to the passenger side of the vehicle. Now with all that said, remember at times Jeep used parts that were left over. Here is a site that may offer you some additional information. www.ifsja.org/index.shtml

Now Lyle, what is a fire wrench, is that a torch or an extinguisher?

Jonathan

[Lyle]

JPNUT said:

Now Lyle, what is a fire wrench, is that a torch or an extinguisher?

Torch. Extinguisher would be an accessory.

[jpnut]

Lyle said:

Torch. Extinguisher would be an accessory.

I think that Erick would say that it is a neccesity. Where is Erick anyway, or did he tell me that he liked phones better than computers.

[toynrnd]

The brakes/axle parts should be the same for all '80-'91 FS Grand Wagoneers. The FS Wagons were the longest running unchanged body style - 27 years ('64-'91). Go Jeep, I mean AMC. I mean Chrysler...Oh, whatever!

[jpnut]

It gets confusing doesn't it Chris? Talk about a vehicle with an identity crisis. But the 80-91 rear axle in the Grand Wagoneers should be an AMC 20 correct?

Jonathan

[BroknCJ]

go willy's, go Kaiser, on donner, on blitzen...hehe...getting in the holiday spirit I guess

[toynrnd]

JPNUT said:

It gets confusing doesn't it Chris? Talk about a vehicle with an identity crisis. But the 80-91 rear axle in the Grand Wagoneers should be an AMC 20 correct?

Jonathan

Not necessarily. My friend's '85 had a D44?!

[jpnut]

I had heard that the 80-81's, some did still have D44's because they were getting rid of the left overs. I guess that they cleaned their warehouse in 85. ;D

I think that Chris needs to write a book on the Jeep history. You probably forget more than I know. But I still know more than the Customer Service Manager at Autozone. I went in to get front axle u-joints for the Wagoneer once and he told me that I didn't have a front axle so there was no part to look up and I shouldn't waste his time. I took him to the front of the store and pointed out the window at the wagoneer and asked him about my front axle and said I wonder who put that in there, I thought it was from the factory.

Jonathan (I was also told that it was Dodge not Chrysler that bought Jeep, Chrysler is not even related to Dodge)

[BIG J]

i can't believe that none of you guys have notice that EVERY vehicle at UWI has the year and what it is written on the side of the body.

[jpnut]

Sure go ahead and ruin all our fun. Here I was trying to show off that I actually knew something. Actually I don't know where UWI is other that probably down in the Watery region of the state let alone what UWI stands for.

Jonathan

[kwrangln]

The specific year doesnt really matter that much. When I started the buildup of my 44 front end, I was amazed at the interchangability between makes and years. For example, I run an early bronco housing(76 I guess), Scout long shaft, shortened a couple inches (78), Chevy half ton short shaft (year unknown), CJ knuckles (year unknown), CJ5 hubs (early 6 bolt external), Scout outer shafts (78), scout caliper plates redrilled to match jeep knuckles, scout calipers and rotors, CJ spindles, and Jeep Cj ball joints. Honestly there wasnt alot of difference between vehicle makes and models besides width. Do what I do at the parts store, when they ask what year, just ask which ones the computer lists, and pick whichever one feels right at the time. Worst that can happen is ya take it back and yell at the retard behind the counter because he looked up the wrong part ;D. I refer to it as zen building, just going with the flow, feelin the groove at the parts store.

Ken "it'll fit" B

[MaddRamm]

I like that attitude! That is what I always have to tell people, anything can fit anything. They always look at me weird after they ask what type tranny or engine and I say, "I dunno, guess an auto with a 460?" They are like, "Well, is it or isn't it?!?!" They never seem to like it when I say "I guess!"

Jasno, as far as the year, yes the normally do. So, if you can find out what year is written on it (I couldn't find one this time!), then I will reward you!