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Post by Lyle on Nov 19, 2002 16:57:09 GMT -5
Just wondered if anyone has tried Fram's new Sure Drain oil drain plug yet? Any comments good or bad? Oil changes have gotten a little messy since I put on the Skid Row engine skid plate!  Details --> www.fram.com |
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Post by kevin108 on Nov 19, 2002 22:13:21 GMT -5
Do you have to pull the pan to install these or do they just screw into the original plug's threads?
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Post by Lyle on Nov 19, 2002 22:56:41 GMT -5
No, they screw into the original threads. They have different sizes to allow for the different threads.
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Post by kevin108 on Nov 20, 2002 17:09:28 GMT -5
Since it screws up into the bottom of the pan, do you think it really lets all the gunk sitting in the bottom run out with the oil? Seems like the me the inlet at the top of the Fram plug would sit above the bottom of the pan trapping in what settled to the bottom...
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Post by Lyle on Nov 20, 2002 17:20:36 GMT -5
Hey Kevin,
Well, I hear ya, but, on the TJ, the drain plug is on the side near the bottom, so, in that application, I don't think that's any more of an issue than the factory drain, but in the case of bottom drains, I see your point. Plus, in a bottom drain, seems like it would be exposing more to get ripped out on a rock if wheeling. Not sure this would be a good thing for a pan with the drain in the bottom of the pan.
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Post by kevin108 on Nov 21, 2002 23:03:07 GMT -5
I was just thinking a little more about this thing. For the skidplate application I can completely understand if the drain plug is hard to get to, but in most cases you're not gonna get any less oil on you really because you've still gotta change the filter. Heh heh!
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Post by jpnut on Nov 26, 2002 18:43:45 GMT -5
Lyle, just remove your skid plate and give it to me and I will worry about the messy oil changes and you won't have to worry. See how easy that is. ;D
Now what keeps it from leaking when the hose thingy isn't hooked up. Would a little grit in there cause it to leak a little. Don't know exactly how the thing hooks together and works.
Jonathan
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Post by BroknCJ on Nov 26, 2002 19:49:58 GMT -5
Lyle, I think you should get one, try it out, then post to everyone your opinion of how you think it works ;D
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Post by Lyle on Nov 26, 2002 20:51:05 GMT -5
Jonathan - I love my skid plate, messy oil changes and all! When I look at the marks on the bottom of that skid, I'm sure it has more than paid for itself! Good point about the thing sealing. I'll look into it.
Ken - I think you are right. At 12 bucks, I'll try the thing and see what happens. But, I just changed the oil, so I'm about 3K away.
Actually, the problem with the skid is not in reaching the drain bolt, it's what happens after you take it out. When it was last changed, it was at my son's shop, after work, up on the lift. He didn't have enough of those tall drain buckets after it filled up the top side of the skid and started coming out around all four sides! The other guys in the shop were not impressed with the oil all over the floor. For my part, I'm just glad it wasn't in my driveway! ;D
Skid Row really does try to deal with it with the diamond shaped opening they put in the skid, but when it first starts flowing, it overshoots the hole, in the middle it's ok, and when it's tapering off, it undershoots the hole. Bottom line: lot's of oil where you don't want it. Very bottom line: small price to pay for the protection that thing gives you.
I'll check out the Fram sure drain along about the end of January when I'll next be due and let you know what I find out.
Lyle
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Post by jpnut on Nov 27, 2002 9:31:26 GMT -5
And here I was hoping to get a skid plate.  I have heard of people taking a piece of cardboard and bending it and putting it through the hole in the skid plate so at worse it runs down the cardboard. Jonathan |
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Post by toynrnd on Nov 27, 2002 11:38:34 GMT -5
Just stick a plastic funnel down thru the skid plate. It will just get pushed up a little as you go over stuff, and sit back down after you clear it. So what if the exhaust catches it on fire, you can just drive through a puddle!
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Post by jpnut on Nov 27, 2002 13:07:52 GMT -5
Just stick a plastic funnel down thru the skid plate. It will just get pushed up a little as you go over stuff, and sit back down after you clear it. So what if the exhaust catches it on fire, you can just drive through a puddle! Umm Catches on fire?!  I remember something about a controled burn at Oak Ridge  But with a plasic funnel it can only be so big, so the fire should be small right? Chris just tell Lyle that he needs to take off the skid plate, give it to me and all his worries will be over. I can worry about spilling oil when changing it.  |
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Post by Lyle on Nov 27, 2002 14:17:21 GMT -5
Fire = Bad Skid Plate = Good Think I'll just buy an extra roll of paper towels whenever I change the oil! |
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Post by bensredyj on Nov 27, 2002 14:49:15 GMT -5
Well focusing more on the oil change apperatise, there was also a dohicky I saw on JU similar to the fram unit but I recall a bit more expensive. I was wondering how the fram unit's hose hooked to the plug, is it when you screw the hose on, it releases the oil? Or do you still need to get a wrench up in there? What if they changed the design of the dimond cut hole and took that material and bent it up as a shield or deflector for the shooting oil. But im sure they cut that piece out. maybe enlarge the hole if possible and try benidng it up? Sounds like a messy situations, just like changing the Tranny fluid and tcase, fluids all over the skids ready to be cooked by mufflers and Cats Well i'll be in the market for one here shortly, maybe a christmas present:) |
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I have heard of people taking a piece of cardboard and bending it and putting it through the hole in the skid plate so at worse it runs down the cardboard.
I remember something about a controled burn at Oak Ridge 
But with a plasic funnel it can only be so big, so the fire should be small right? 