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Post by kevin108 on Oct 23, 2002 19:43:55 GMT -5
In the market for new tires, my Pep Boys ATs almost run me off the road everytime it rains so I'm scared of them. So far everything I've read about Procomp tires, mainly the MTs and XTs, has been positive. Anybody have any first or second-hand experience with them? Planning on going to a 35x12.50R16, if it makes any difference. Pep Boy's ATs: The (parenthesis) tread in the middle just kinda traps water in and forces it down (ie - hydroplaning). What a dumb idea for a tread pattern....  |
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Post by ScramblerPat on Oct 23, 2002 19:56:27 GMT -5
only one. I believe the x is directional, this would require the same diameter tire or two spares. petersons ran a review about them.
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Post by kevin108 on Oct 23, 2002 20:20:10 GMT -5
I've got a fullsize spare. The XT is directional, but I've got a rear locker, so front to rear rotation is all I'd need to do since I'll never burn just the right rear. (I know because of the locker if one of my rears ever went flat I'd have to throw one of the fronts back and put the spare up front.)
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Post by toynrnd on Oct 24, 2002 5:51:52 GMT -5
I have seen prices for the Pro Comps in the magazines. I wonder if you could get BFG Mud Terrains or Goodyear MTRs for less. Pat got a good price on BFGs from Sears in Hampton, and Lyle found Goodyears cheap at Tirerack.com.
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Post by kevin108 on Oct 24, 2002 6:37:45 GMT -5
It's possible. I don't know anybody that's run BFG Muds, but I've never liked the ATs and it worries me that the MTs from them might be the same quality (Or lack there of - I've seen a dually actually twist the lugs off the tread and had a I had a work truck with them.) I have no use for BFG ATs on a fullsize. I think they might be fine on a Jeep or something else small, but the weight of a fullsize seems to just destroy those tires. But the MTs might be another story. If so, I'd like to hear it.
I've got a friend with a Jeep that bought the Goodyear MT/Rs (from Tirerack.com also) and I saw how much weight it took to balance his 31s so it concerns me what it might take to balance 35s. I guess all that sidewall treatment is what makes it get interesting...
I'm still open to suggestions and info on these and other tires though.
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Post by toynrnd on Oct 24, 2002 11:13:48 GMT -5
I didn't think about the big truck/heavy issue. I have run BFG MTs since 1988. I have had 33s and 35s and have had good luck w/ them. They are a good all-around tire for street, trail, snow, and most time even the beach. When I get another set, I may consider the Goodyear MTRs. What about those Michelins they are using on the military trucks nowadays? Those look way cool and i bet they could handle the weight.
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Post by MaddRamm on Oct 24, 2002 12:49:14 GMT -5
I have a set of 35x12.50 BFG ATs and they have kicked major butt! I have torn chunkcs out of the sidewall, put plenty of nails through them and then just pluegged them back up. Last year at Uwharri, I put a double wrinkle in one of them on the rocks and it didn't have any problem with it...no busted belts or anything either...And my steering was screwed for the longest time, now they are all burnt out on the inside tread on all of them, but still ride like a charm!
I understand the weight issue, mine are like load range C or D. I moved up to larger Ground hawgs with 16.5" rims to get the 10 ply load range E. But I think you can get that load E with 16" rims with BFG also. Great mileage gas wise and last forever...
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Post by Lyle on Oct 25, 2002 16:33:24 GMT -5
I've got a friend with a Jeep that bought the Goodyear MT/Rs (from Tirerack.com also) and I saw how much weight it took to balance his 31s so it concerns me what it might take to balance 35s. I guess all that sidewall treatment is what makes it get interesting... I'm still open to suggestions and info on these and other tires though. Hi Kevin, I can tell you that I like my MT/R's a lot! They're great on wet pavement and great on the trails. I can't speak to how they'd be on a full size tho. Mine are 31x10.50, and on my TJ. I can tell you that I take them to my son who works at a dealer in Annapolis for balancing and they take very little weight to balance properly. When he was mounting them for me the first time, he loaded them up in their computer balancing machine and the MT/R's made such a racket inside there when it spun up, the other guys in the shop came over to see what was going on. After it was all done, they commented how low the "road force" measurement was.. saying that they rarely see readings that low on new tires. I do believe that with that tire, rotation is important. I rotate and balance with every oil change (every 3K). At the other end of the scale, I do know what you mean about the "pucker factor" involved with tires that don't do well on wet pavement. My original Goodyear GS/A's scared the heck outta me when it rained. Often felt like riding on a sheet of marbles when rounding a curve. Those tires were just plain dangerous. I have absolutely no complaints with the MT/R's however, either on-road, or off. For what it's worth, my "other" set of tires are Goodyear AT/S's. I don't know if you're looking for strictly a highway tire, or something to handle all activities, but the AT/S is great on wet or snow covered pavement. The "AT" designation from Goodyear is because they are a derivative of the old "Aqua Tread" design. They are nowhere near as capable on the trails as the MT/R's though. Hope that helps. Lyle AT/S  MT/R  ps. I just went back and read your requirements more carefully. Your size requirement gets a little spooky with MT/R's. You might have to look at metric sizes to get close to where you want to be in the MT/R's. Looks like LT315/75R16 is close. Check www.goodyeartires.com/catalog/products/WRLMTRSize.html |
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Post by bensredyj on Oct 25, 2002 17:18:29 GMT -5
Well my vote would be for the Michelin XL or XML. ONLY problem is that they are speed rated for under 60mph. BUT they look cool and weigh a ton a piece they may be the next great thing as being tested in Petersen on the super duty and also featured on a buggy during the Fourwheeler Top truck Challenge this year. I haven't seen any proce though. BEN  |
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Post by kevin108 on Oct 27, 2002 22:21:20 GMT -5
Strangely enough I've found there's a big difference between 10.50s and 12.50s. I had a buddy who ran my tires in a 31x10.50 on an S-10 Blazer and didn't have any problems with them. Just because you run a "flotation size" tire doesn't mean you really want to float! I had him drive my truck in the rain and he couldn't believe the difference. My buddy w/ the MT/Rs had Bob Ewell M&B them, never had any probs there before. Yeah, the MT/Rs have a nice open tread pattern and killer siping, but I spend a lot of time in the sand so I thought they might be too much tire for that. |
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Post by f250inhampton on Nov 7, 2002 0:17:21 GMT -5
Hi,
I have run 33x12.5x16.5 BFG MT's on my '89 Ford F250 4x4 with 8600 GVW package and they worked great for all around town daily driving. Handled 2 tons in the bed of my truck no problem. Now that I don't use the truck for a daily driver I've decided to put the LTB Super Swamper on my truck with new 16x8 wheels from National Tire & wheel.
I bought a used set of 33x12.5x16.5 Bronco's in GREAT shape for $100. I am currently running a set of "Bronco" ( basically a Dunlop Radial Mud Rover pattern ) on my truck. They are in sad shape...I have 3.5 cubic yards of WET mulch on my truck now waiting to be offloaded...I am sure getting my $100 out of them.
I think the XT's would be cool. The Michelin's are godawful expensive...I checked.....
Thanks,
Anthony
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Post by lifted79cj7 on Feb 9, 2003 4:14:59 GMT -5
I ran 33X12.5X15 BFG MT's on my CJ7 and never had a complaint about them accept that the fact that they are a MT's so they kinda sucked in rain on the interstate. Besideds that I loved them and really like the new design. I also really dig those Goodyear's as well. Felt it was money well spent. They lasted for quite a while.
Jack
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