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Post by MaddRamm on May 2, 2003 20:11:08 GMT -5
I am working on installing the Waggy D44s and of course none of them have any decent gears all of them are like 3.31s or 2.73s. When I swap on the Waggy axles, I would like to just instal the two sets of 3.54 gears I have leftover from the Dodge D44s. But would these be too high to run 31"s with the I-6??? I have two sets of 4.88s ready to go, but no locker or carriers for them. Plus, I figured if I had the Waggys under there and at least a matching ratio, I could wheel the thing with 31"s......would it be reasonbly wheelable with 31"s and only 3.54s? ??
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Post by bensredyj on May 2, 2003 20:29:24 GMT -5
That should be ok, NOT the greatest for future mods, THe TJ Sahars came with 3.73 stock in the 44 and 30 with an I6. TJ sports also came with 3.07. SO think of it as having stock gearing. THis is for a Cherokee body, think the same applies. ONLY 4.10 were the 4cyl. might as well save up for some 5.13 or bigger for 36+swampers BEN
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Post by toynrnd on May 2, 2003 21:25:13 GMT -5
I am running 33s in my CJ w/ 3.54s and the 258. I do have a granny 4 spd though for wheeling, but as far as on the road, it does fine.
Remember, lower gears = more power. More power = broken parts. Keep the higher gears and lightweight right shoe.
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Post by ScramblerPat on May 3, 2003 14:07:41 GMT -5
I would have to disagree. Lower gears equals more controlled power. Speed and momentum are used at obstacles when the gears are not there. The less you need to use the skinny pedal to go over an obstacle the less chance of hearing a loud pop. (This pop would not be the head)
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2003 17:19:39 GMT -5
Just put that thing together and go 'wheeling. It has been my experience that you are not scared of the gas. (Unlike the old dudes reading this slam!)
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Post by BIG J on May 4, 2003 12:30:34 GMT -5
stop thinking and start wheeling
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Post by toynrnd on May 5, 2003 5:50:54 GMT -5
I am trying to think of how many wheeling trips you young whippersnappers w/ heavy feet have missed because of broken vehicles compared to us old timers.
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Post by jpnut on May 5, 2003 9:41:03 GMT -5
I think that you would be fine right now with the gears that you have in the axles. I have a 97 TJ sport, 6cyl, ax15 and D35c and if I'm not mistaken the gearing is 3.07's. I have been running 31's for the last year and a half. I don't use 5th gear much but my mileage hasn't suffered greatly, so I vote for wheel it.
Jonathan
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Post by MaddRamm on May 5, 2003 16:15:06 GMT -5
Yeah, but see, of the three D44s I got here...like one is a 2.73, another is 3.07 and the other is a 3.31...none matching. I got 4.88s, but want to wait till I get the lift and all on before putting them low boys in there! The only matching gears I have are 3.54s from two Dodge front ends.
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Post by jpnut on May 5, 2003 16:26:19 GMT -5
Hmmmm, guess I missed that part. Sorry.
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Post by Lyle on May 5, 2003 17:14:49 GMT -5
I am trying to think of how many wheeling trips you young whippersnappers w/ heavy feet have missed because of broken vehicles compared to us old timers.
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Post by jpnut on May 5, 2003 19:51:42 GMT -5
But didn't Danny have that changed out before most people even realized what happened? At least he carries the spare parts that he needs. ;D
Jonathan
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Post by Lyle on May 6, 2003 6:35:32 GMT -5
Yeah... pretty cool that he carries a spare driveshaft, eh?
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Post by bensredyj on May 6, 2003 7:31:14 GMT -5
Well he said he had allready tagged that shaft so It was marked to break. THATS why he was carrying a shaft with him. AND he was the last across to be WINCHED up CJ-5 hill, one way or another, DIED tryn you can say, He swapped the shaft will the participants had lunch in the rain BEN
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Post by N2Rocks on May 8, 2003 16:52:35 GMT -5
The decision of which gear ratio to use should be based on what tire size, engine, manual or auto tranny, first and final transmission ratio, and the driving duties of the vehicle both on and off-road. I don't recommend installing used gears even front gears from a part time 4wd system. As the gears wear they wear in they're own pattern. If the gears are installed and the original wearing pattern is not matched there could be failure. I especially would be cautious of reversing the direction of wear from front to rear. It can be difficult to properly install used gears and obtain the proper mesh pattern, due to the metal that has worn away. I'm sure there are guys who have had good luck with used gears, but gears are under a lot of stress, and failures are catostrophic. The same goes for the installer. I've resetup gears that were just installed by a shop and the pinion was 108 thousands of an inch off. Avoid mechanics that will throw any gear gear in, and quickly give it a "good enough". I recommend not allowing costs be the only determining factor in your gear selection.
That's my 2.4 cents worth,
Don
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