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Post by minydigger on Sept 19, 2006 16:19:32 GMT -5
Isn't it illegal in Va to run blocks on the front axle? scary
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Post by newt on Sept 19, 2006 18:07:50 GMT -5
DO NOT USE FRONT LIFT BLOCKS IF YOU PLAN TO DRIVE THIS JEEP ANYWHERE OTHER THAN IN YOUR DRIVEWAY
My friend, stop what you are doing and spend some time learning about suspension geometry and design. It would be a shame to waste that fine engine and all of your work by throwing on a poorly designed lift and wrecking the jeep. The front lift blocks and Ubolts will fail - its just a matter of time. They cannot hold up to the lateral forces and you can expect crazy torque wrap and brake dive, your pinion angles will be all over the place.
Keep it simple - sturdy - and as low as possible.
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Post by 87B2XLT on Sept 19, 2006 19:31:31 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of lift blocks. I'd prefer to use shackles in conjuction with an SOA on an all-leaf suspension, among other things. The best option would be to convert to coils up front or on all fours, unless you wanted to get really crazy and use coilovers like Eddie ;D
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Post by 87B2XLT on Sept 25, 2006 21:36:29 GMT -5
Uh, good luck finding orders to a DD that's still in commission. My last ship was a DD and it now sleeps with the fishes. I think there are a few still out there, but they are getting scarce.
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Post by newt on Sept 29, 2006 20:22:59 GMT -5
T18 reverse and first are not synchronized. My Dana@0 is twin-sticked w/ Dana 18 pieces (and works great) but things need to be moving a little to get the gears to line up - rotate the rear drive haft some and it should help. Did you remove the interlock pill entirely?
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Post by 4WDnRocksNmud on Nov 3, 2006 17:25:15 GMT -5
Dee Dee Dee!
If you need a hand with the windshield, I know a few tricks to getting them in on the CJs seeing as I was a "professional" at one time.
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Post by swampercj on Nov 6, 2006 19:58:05 GMT -5
Dude don't use lift blocks! What you are doing is dangerous as hell. Even the big trucks down in Florida that run 44s+ move all suspension mounts down towards the axles! Basically they build sub frames. Nobody uses lift blocks in the front. They will always spit out at the worst time and it always screws up a day! I’ve seen it happen in mud bogs on the trails…and everyone around has always said the same thing…What the $%@k were you thinking running lift blocks!
Let me know if you want to sell those 42s, I’m looking for another set for another project?
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Post by CORE 4WD on Nov 7, 2006 7:51:11 GMT -5
Secondly, the blocks add tremendous leverage to the springs (torque arm or not) and will distort the spring pack leading to all kinds of convoluted steering and pinion angles which will break parts (and yourself or others if driven on the street). Get your lift with the right spring pack or at the frame (like Swampercj suggested), not at the axle. You and your trail buddies will be alot happier!  Dave |
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 7, 2006 18:23:19 GMT -5
SOA + the what... 1-2" shackle lifts you can get for cheap are a quick and easy fix, but you can also pony up the extra $$$ for the lifting leafs and still be able to put some pretty tall meat on there.... even with a little sheetmetal persuasion or body lift involved as well. You could also add to the mix some Terra-Flex shackles for even more flex. I can't remember if I had mentioned any of this earlier in the thread or not *shrug*
Dave G.
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Post by swampercj on Nov 7, 2006 18:59:22 GMT -5
Glad you're getting rid of those blocks! Pm'd ya
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 8, 2006 4:17:55 GMT -5
Wondering if they make multi-leaf (i.e. the 11-leaf superflex type) of lifting springs for Jeeps then... just a thought.
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Post by CORE 4WD on Nov 9, 2006 22:09:35 GMT -5
Honestly.... I'm sick of dumping money into this F@#%$R.... With the money that I spent on this Jeep I could've finished my 68 442... (But then again, I am building a Jeep). I'm just going to go with smaller tires, larger rims... FSJ front leafs and my soft leafs in the rear... PLus, Junk yard parts are a lot cheaper... My next couple of investments on the Jeep will be the complete MSD ignition/Distributor etc... and a Complete CenterForce II Clutch assembly Kit... some minor stuff for the breaks and I'm done with it for a while... (Buying things!) If you would have spent the money on suspension and axle stuff instead of that bling-bling engine you would be way better off. But then again, that's for a trail rig and not a bogger...IMO of course. ;D |
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 29, 2006 4:32:55 GMT -5
Somehow, I take it that you are an MR (or an overly educated HT?), Rich.... and wondering what all machining equipment you have access to. Pretty awesome that you have the ability to do all of that yourself. For me, I guess I'd rather have my weak points be on something external (drivelines) than internal (axles, shafts, etc.) because that way, when it breaks, it's just something you can fix without having to tear things down, but that's just me.
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 30, 2006 4:31:20 GMT -5
Yeah, no sh**! Yeah, They want to take the 9-10 Engineering rates and merge 'em into three. Propulsion Electrician, Propulsion Mechanic, and something else, if I remember right. My rate (EM) is going to be part of the first merge, I believe. Us, IC, and GSE are going to be PE's. It might happen before I retire, we'll see. If it does and I'm not already a chief.... going to be interesting taking THAT test!  I'd love to spend time learning more about machining and welding myself. Sometimes I wish I would have become and MR or HT, but OH well. Heh. |
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Post by CORE 4WD on Nov 30, 2006 19:02:43 GMT -5
Atlas has a 10 to 1....
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