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Post by CORE 4WD on Nov 17, 2006 21:58:03 GMT -5
Keith decided to go with the Blue Oval for motorvation in his CJ- First things first-  Coming out-  Gotta love old iron for it's simplicity and ease of dissassembly-  Now u see it-  Now u don't. One hour later and it's out-  The right engine. Go Blue Oval-  Bolted to frame-  Made nut serts for winch plate too-  To be continued... 07Dec06- NP435 synchro r&r-  Remove cover-         Make sure these don't fall out or just replace them, they're in the master kit-  Synchro is tight when new, can cause mainshaft to not spin, wiggle it around until it's free once installed in gear box-   Mainshaft built up-   Shift rail mod- NP435 can pop out of gear due to shallow 1st gear detent/weak spring-  Remove roll pins, pop cover plugs, slide rail out, grind away-  Hopefully this will be enough grinding... Pics added 21Dec06. T-case got clocked so now the skid can get smoothed-   |
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 17, 2006 23:04:54 GMT -5
Lookin' good so far. My only suggestion is ditch the Ford TFI ignition, or do a remote module locate modification to the distributor. The module tends to heat up and go kaput. Of course, if you're going with Ford OEM fuel injection... then you're kinda stuck. You could always go aftermarket all the way ;D Good to see someone daring to be different and going with a Ford engine vice Chevy!  |
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Post by Chele on Nov 17, 2006 23:14:51 GMT -5
My suggestion is............
get that sh*t on the road so we can go wheelin'!
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Post by FJ40Fran on Nov 17, 2006 23:44:56 GMT -5
Look who's talking big and all here...!! I should go find those quotes about why Miss Chele hasn't been on the trails recently!  Fran |
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Post by 4WDnRocksNmud on Nov 18, 2006 0:59:08 GMT -5
hey keith, what ya doin with the motor?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2006 2:22:28 GMT -5
The buzzards are already circling.
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 18, 2006 3:17:16 GMT -5
That must've been what woke me up, Norm  ;D |
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Post by Chele on Nov 18, 2006 8:14:32 GMT -5
Look who's talking big and all here...!! I should go find those quotes about why Miss Chele hasn't been on the trails recently! Fran Hey now!!!!!  |
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Post by LILREDCJ6 on Nov 18, 2006 8:19:47 GMT -5
Man that big nlue motor would look good in my big blue jeep maybe i can go by since its close and talk him out of it?
Looks good Kieth
Tony
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2006 14:05:14 GMT -5
Lookin' good so far. My only suggestion is ditch the Ford TFI ignition, or do a remote module locate modification to the distributor. The module tends to heat up and go kaput. Of course, if you're going with Ford OEM fuel injection... then you're kinda stuck. You could always go aftermarket all the way ;D Good to see someone daring to be different and going with a Ford engine vice Chevy! I think you may be confusing the Ford TFI ignition with the Duraspark set up. TFI is one of the most reliable and strongest factory ignitions. Anyway, I'm using the factory computer, no need for an expensive aftermarket distributor and spark box. Tony, everything I have is for sale....$$$$ Cory, the engine is sitting on the floor in my way. I think someone has spoken for the AFI set up, but the engine and all I'll unload cheap. I also have a HEI distributor for it and a Powermaster (fits 304's too) starter if anyone is interested. I've still got a couple weeks worth of work to do, it might be Jan before it's ready. I'll be wrenching on it Sunday too. Today is recovery and monster trucks. |
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 18, 2006 15:45:59 GMT -5
I think you may be confusing the Ford TFI ignition with the Duraspark set up. TFI is one of the most reliable and strongest factory ignitions. Anyway, I'm using the factory computer, no need for an expensive aftermarket distributor and spark box. <-- I forget which of the several threads in full-size or mid-size truck body forums here... but, I don't have them confused. One of the popular pre-fuel injection mods is to ditch the TFI for a duraspark or do a custom HEI mod with a Duraspark distributor or to remove the TFI module from the distributor and remotely locate it out of the "hot zone" so it doesn't burn up. My particular Ford hasn't eaten a TFI module since I've owned it (yet), but I have replaced many of the distributor-mounted modules because of failure. The TFI was replaced by the DIS/EDIS distributorless ignition, and the Duraspark was replaced (unfortunately) by the TFI. Not saying that the Duraspark, Duraspark II (aka DuraPuke) didn't have it's problems as well. If it weren't for the EEC-IV requiring a digital input vice analog, I would drop in a Duraspark distributor and use the GM HEI ignition module. I've been toying with figuring out an analog-to-digital mod for this very reason. When my TFI module goes, though, I -am- thinking of doing a remote locate mod using one of my old PII/PIII cpu heatsinks, maybe with a fan and put it somewhere where the hot-running engine / radiator doesn't burn it up... then again, I'd love to also do a hood scoop like Dave and Billy did to Billy's EB for the extra cooling ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2006 11:39:03 GMT -5
Sorry dude, I'll argue with you all day about the Ford TFI setup. If the hot setup was to convert, then every stang banger out there would be doing it...and trust me they aren't. We have daily drivers running 11-12 second 1/4 mile times with the stock ignition and it never needs replacing. I can't speak on what the pre-FI truck guys are doing...that doesn't concern me since I am using all Mustang stuff. You are seriously the first person I have ever heard say they don't like the TFI and prefer the Duraspark. I've never had a Duraspark box last me more than 10,000 miles...ever.
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 19, 2006 12:16:18 GMT -5
For one, I didn't say I liked one over the other nor was I trying to argue. I was just pointing out issues and modifications I have seen done or documentation on. Maybe the TFI ignition equipped 'stangs don't have any underhood hot spots? I'm not saying that the TFI ignition is as problematic as the Duraspark ignition (or moreso the Duraspark I vice II) or vice versa, but that the distributor-mounted TFI modules are more prone to failure due to heat / overheating than firewall / radiator support / fender mounted ones. And also speaking of "good" Duraspark ignitions, I had an '86 2.0L 4-banger Ranger with the Duraspark ignition that had 130k miles on it when I traded it in on my Nissan and I -never- had to replace the control box. Certain Duraspark boxes were junk, certain ones were less prone to failure. Considering how hot-running my junk is (and the fact that the Cologne 2.9 V-6 is problematic and has design flaws anyhow), I'm actually surprised I haven't had to replace the TFI module on my distributor. Then again, wouldn't surprise me if the previous owner had to do it or the original owner had already done it. I will say this: I have replaced more TFI modules than I have ever replaced Duraspark modules, and this is coming from experiences dating back to a 1975 Gran Torino (and 76 GT Station wagon) that my family owned when I was a kid and many many Fords owned or worked on since. I actually replaced a points-style distributor in my 351C I had at one time with a Duraspark setup out of a junkyard and ended up having fewer issues with reliability -- probably mostly because the points-style distributor I had in there was in need of rebuild / replacement because the points were always floating. Most of the pre-DIS/EDIS 'stang bangers I've known over the years didn't keep the stock ignition or computer. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, I guess. EDIT: Off with the Blue Oval ignition lessons and on with the build-up!! ;D |
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Post by CORE 4WD on Nov 19, 2006 13:13:33 GMT -5
Yea before I delete the whole dang thing! heh heh I love a good debate.  Keith, let me know when you want to do the tranny. Wednesday looks like my only down day, I'll have Alex Wed until Thursday morn. Then I've got to find somebody that's got turkey and b#er, or at least some b#er! |
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Post by 87B2XLT on Nov 19, 2006 13:32:32 GMT -5
And I wasn't even trying to start one... heh. Well, I guess if you get no other offers Dave, you can come to the "ghetto" and have some turkey.... and I guess I could stock up a little on beer. I generally don't keep a whole lot around most of the time. Let me know. I'll probably call you here in a bit... was going to yesterday but got otherwise occupied. Also needed to scope some things out so when I get ready to order suspension parts for pre/post-axle swap, I can figure out what I'm going to go with.
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